Maj. Saily Rodriguez, the Human Systems Program Office female fitment program manager, sits in a T-38 Talon while Maj. Ryan Claussen, 50th Flying Training Wing chief of instructor pilots, climbs a ladder, July 12, 2019, on Columbus Air Force Base, Mississippi. Rodriguez went on the incentive flight to test the equipment and to try out a disposable urinary relief device called the Traveljohn.